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Sunday, September 11, 2011

Discussion Place for The Autobiography of Mrs. Tom Thumb, a Novel

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98 comments:

Markie23 said...

Why don't you girls pick on somebody your own size?

Jenny ESP said...

better question... how could you stand that tiny little brat?

Markie23 said...

Don't you judge me! And don't you judge little Vinnie.

Landee said...

You gave Lavinia much too much credit. She was such a B.

Markie23 said...

How would YOU behave if you were different from EVERYBODY else, a "freak", in pre-politically correct world? A tiny person in a Giant Land, pointed at, jeered at, picked up like a doll, sold as a sex slave... almost.

Amanda said...

I enjoyed reading the reviews. I'm still curious though since I didn't finish the book what happened to her sister. How did she die and why does she blame herself?

Jenny ESP said...

If I was a relative of hers, I would sue this author for defamation.

Landee said...

Of all the people who got judged by her looks, she should have been the least judgy judgerson of all. But no, she was the worst midget judger ever.

Markie23 said...

I would have either stayed in the fetal position or been a "self-absorbed, selfish, arrogant, condescending, uppity, heartless, cold, manipulative, opportunistic, cruel, self-righteous, judgmental hypocrite.”

Jenny ESP said...

Completely agree with Landee, about how the author over-used foreshadowing, and never lived up to her promises.

Landee said...

She got preggerz because Vinnie was stupid and didn't tell her that she'd get torn in two giving birth.

Landee said...

The foreshadowing was my biggest pet peeve.

"And I kissed her goodnight knowing she was safe..... for now"

DUH DUH DUNNNNNNN.

Jenny ESP said...

I assume the best of people, Markie, so I would assume she would have handled it just fine. Embraced it. Not turned into a selfish brat.

Amanda said...

Not sure why Markie keeps defending Vinnie. How tall are you Markie?

Landee said...

Markie must have a midget fetish he's not fessing up to.

Markie23 said...

I love little people, even grumpy ones... like Grumpy.

Jenny ESP said...

I thought it was so arogant of Vinnie to assume blame for Minnie's death! Minnie was a grown woman and could make her own decisions. I don't believe for a second that she didn't understand the risks, I think she was just willing to take them since she wanted a baby so badly.

Markie23 said...

I wish I had my own tiny person.

Amanda said...

Oh, that's terrible. What man in his right mind got Vinnie's sister pregnant????

Jenny ESP said...

I loved when Barnum pointed out to Vinnie how arogant is she for assuming blame for Minnie's death, cuz I was thinking the same thing!

Landee said...

I thought that too Jenny. How dare she try to take the blame! And then try to blame PT even. Vinnie has issues.

I was thinking about it and if Minnie really was 30 lbs. that would be like Brynn (5 years old) giving birth to a full term baby. Yikes.

Markie23 said...

So, I'm not arguing that the author portrayed her as all that mean stuff you girls said, and yes I think it was dumb to blame herself for Minnies death, but I know people like that. I don't despise them though.

Jenny ESP said...

We weren't told very much about Minnie's relationship or marriage, as the author instead spent her words telling us more boring and uninteresting stuff.

Did the author lack the imagination to tackle the interesting stuff? Was it too daunting? What's the deal!!??

Amanda said...

Every night I had to MAKE myself read this book and then after a while of spending so much time with someone I didn't like I just couldn't do it anymore.

Markie23 said...

Don't you give her some credit for being brave enough to teach school knowing the kids would always be laughing and taunting her? And credit for being brave enough to leave home and tour the world?

Landee said...

You don't have to HATE her Markie. But do you want to know her every bratty thought?

No.

Jenny ESP said...

It wasn't only Vinnie's likability factor that was a problem, it was also just a very dull book.

Markie23 said...

So willing to accept, embrace, and applaud the depressing deaths and irreparable damage done to the leading characters of The Book Thief and The Hunger Games trilogy, but so unforgiving of the minor character flaws of a little dwarf.

Amanda said...

I would never read another book by this author. I'm not one for taking real, live people, and recreating their lives and telling their stories. Shows a lot of arrogance on the part of the author if you ask me.

I'm with Jenny on the defamation suit.

Jenny ESP said...

I hate reading the thoughts of a character who just doesn't get it. It's annoying. How can she not see what a condescending hypocrite she was being? How could she think that every little person but HER was simpleminded?

Markie23 said...

I agree it was a dull book. I had to force myself to read too sometimes. I also don't think the author did justice to what I believe was a very interesting subject.

Landee said...

I will say that a part that made me sad was when the Astor daughter (or Vanderbilt or something) was saying how her mom used to dress Vinnie up like her like a doll.

ANd when Charles mentioned about the Egyptian guys laughing at them.

Jenny ESP said...

Stay on task here, Markie. Besides, those are strange comparisons. We're talking about her personality.

eekareek said...

I didn't finish. What did I miss?

Amanda said...

Right on as far as dull. Dull, uninteresting, boring.....all that. I even skipped to the end to see if anything exciting happened and I couldn't find any meat at all to the book.

The difference, Markie, between this book and The Book Thief and The Hunger Games is so grand that I'm not sure I have enough hours to explain that to you. To sum it up, this one is boring and the others are captivating.

Markie23 said...

@ Amanda, "I'm not one for taking real, live people, and recreating their lives and telling their stories. Shows a lot of arrogance on the part of the author if you ask me." Did you read These is My Words Amanda? I think the problem is just that the author didn't do it very well.

Jenny ESP said...

Best parts of the book were her time on the river boat, and the fire at the end. Those are the only times anything happened.

Markie23 said...

Well, there was a little war going on. What did you think of the little "intermissions"?

Landee said...

I also liked when Barnum was around. That's it.

eekareek said...

Well, I almost didn't watch Top Chef: Just Desserts so that I could make some progress on the book and now I am glad I didn't. In Markie's defense, The Body Finder was awesome, especially chapter 17...

Jenny ESP said...

Would you trust this author to write a fictional biography of you, Markie?

Jenny ESP said...

Or anyone else?

Landee said...

And, yes, Vinnie, we get it... your gloves need to be custom made. Fhs.

eekareek said...

The writing was dull but I have read duller books. And I agree about the excessive foreshadowing.

Jenny ESP said...

Read about her on Wiki, Eek. It's more interesting and more accurate, and much quicker.

Amanda said...

No, haven't read "These Is My Words" but if you say it's well done I would be willing to read it.

Markie23 said...

Yes, I would trust her to write my life. I just hope she doesn't leave out the part where I was going to be an electronics engineer, but changed my major to computer science.... so exciting!

Amanda said...

lol @ Markie

Landee said...

I thought the intermissions were random. Some were applicable. Some were random.

I was bugged about the Mormon thing at first... but then I remembered when we toured the Lion House this summer and I got totally creeped out talking about "the mommies." Gag.

Jenny ESP said...

Although Vinnie was a world traveler in the 1860-70s, had seen all these exotic locations and cultures, nothing was more shocking and horrific than her encounter with them Mormons down in UT. Charight! That's the author's hand in there. That's just pure laziness. An easy jab.

Amanda said...

My grandmother started writing her autobiography at age 32. She started writing again at age 60 or so. Very fascinating stuff and very well written. Wish I had time to write my life, but there's too much living to do. Busy, busy, busy all the time.

Jenny ESP said...

Don't worry, Markie, she only needs the "bones" of your story. She'll do what she has to do to, even if that means you come out hated.

eekareek said...

I am writing my life on my blog. I am just on intermission.

Landee said...

I'm sure she'd focus mainly on his dislike of The Book Thief. That would paint him as a ridiculous fool.

Markie23 said...

I'm used to being hated. Especially in this book club.

Amanda said...

I wonder if Vinnie kept a journal? How did the author come up with the time line for her story? How did the author decide on this arrogant personality? Hmm.

Markie23 said...

Thanks for validating my comment Landee.

Landee said...

No prob, Markie. I gotcher back.

Markie23 said...

Anybody else been to a freak show? What did you see?

Jenny ESP said...

Her conclusions are unfounded to me. But she's not the only one who thinks Vinnie was probably a huge B. ::pointing at Markie::

Amanda said...

Now I'm just wondering if someone kept track of all the famous people Vinnie met or if someone researched everyone who had met Vinnie and then added them all up to create a story? I wish I knew more about her meeting Brigham Young. Was that her idea or his?

Amanda said...

You age yourself when you say you've been to a freak show. :)

Jenny ESP said...

I was called up on the stage of freak show before. As part of an illusion one of the freaks was performing. He pretended to remove my bra and got a huge laugh.

Markie23 said...

I think Vinnie was a tablespoon of "B" and gallon of courage.

Markie23 said...

How many times has Anthony performed that trick?

Jenny ESP said...

I think she got a lot of that info from news paper accounts, A. She said they were always in the new. Front page stories, even tho the war was happening.

Amanda said...

Well I did enjoy this discush. I better put my seven dwarfs to bed. Night everybody.

Thanks Markie for the pick. You are a good sport. :)

Landee said...

Wow, markie. I have no words.

Markie23 said...

Thanks Amanda, sorry for the pick.

Jenny ESP said...

Only three times, Markie. We have three kids, and that's the only evidence to prove it, so it's safe to assume it only happened thrice.<--using the author's logic.

Landee said...

I wonder how her other book about Alice in Wonderland is.

Memzy said...

1. I made the mistake of reading about her on Wiki BEFORE reading the book.
2. It was torture making myself read it. Booooor-iiiing.
3. I've always wanted a midget for Christmas (that and a gay) and never get one. This book may have cured me of that forever.
4.I appreciate VERY much Markie stepping up to choose a book, even if it wasn't my fave.

Markie23 said...

I'm glad you weren't split in two. You are a tiny little thing.

Amanda said...

Oh, newspapers, that makes complete sense. It would be like someone writing about Brangelina 100 years from now and getting all their info from magazines. Nice. Says a lot about our society how war can be going on and still we are fascinated by entertainment. I guess some things never change.

Markie23 said...

Thanks for not being a hater Memzy!!!

Jenny ESP said...

I read the Alice book. It was almost as boring as this one, and I just barely liked Alice. She was a pretty terrible person as well, according to author.

eekareek said...

Markie, you're grossing me out...

eekareek said...

I am kinda like Vinnie in that way.

eekareek said...

I would rather read about midgets than the war. BORING!

Jenny ESP said...

Like YOU Markie, but not Vinnie. And you didn't read it before you chose it, so you can't accept blame. That's really very arrogant of you. Plus, you gave us Gen. I am forever in your debt.

Markie23 said...

I can't imagine what Minnie must have looked like at full term ::shiver::

Amanda said...

Don't apologize for the pick Markie. I got it from the library so no worries.

Okay, really going to put the kiddos to bed now. Night.

Jenny ESP said...

Night, Amanda

Jenny ESP said...

I'm glad I read it, too. So I will know to avoid this author in the future.

Landee said...

That's the beauty of picking a new book. You can't take it personally.

PS Prevention powders.

Markie23 said...

So did anybody finish Divergent? I just started it.

Jenny ESP said...

Yes, Memzy! I get my little person fix watching "Little People, Big World."

Jenny ESP said...

I stayed up until 4am reading Divergent. I think it would make a good discussion.

Jenny ESP said...

Does anyone want to pick the next book, or should we read Divergent and make Sam be in charge again?

Markie23 said...

Where did everybody go?

Jenny ESP said...

Idk, went back to watching 9-11 documentaries?

Landee said...

I haven't read Divergent and I probably won't unless forced by the SRBC.

Let me know if I'm forced.

Memzy said...

I read Divergent and really liked it. It was a quick and easy read. Riley also read and loved it.

Markie23 said...

Ok, well I guess this discussion is over. I vote we force Landee to read Divergent. Goodnight everybody & thanks for your participation.

Jenny ESP said...

Do you wanna pick the book, Landee? Or should we force you to read Divergent?

Jenny ESP said...

Thanks, Markie!

samandlysander said...

Sorry I didn't make it I was putting my little guy to bed. I read the first couple of chapters but wasn't really getting into it. I had to push myself through those chapters. Now that I hear that the rest of the book was slow movin I'm glad I didn't force myself through it.
I can't wait to find out whats next. If Landee is forced to read Divergent I think she will be glad she did!! Seriously, sooo good!!

Amanda said...

Like Landee I haven't read Divergent and will never get around to it unless it's a SRBC pick. I've heard it's non-dull so I would be all for it. Sounds like an easy, quick read.

This is just an aside.....on my to-read list is The Language of Flowers. Has anyone heard anything about it or read it? It just came out in August. I heard an interview with the author on NPR and I was fascinated by her story. When it's my turn to pick the monthly book I think that's what I'll choose. So consider yourselves warned, ha ha.