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Monday, February 1, 2010

Discussion for The Guernsey Literary and Potato Peel Pie Society

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ShelBailey said...

anyone here yet?

ShelBailey said...

Ya know, I'm missing Chuck for this.

Landee said...

Reading all these johnny-come-lately reviews!! BRB

Jenny ESP said...

I'm here! Was reading the last few reviews, now I'm ready.

StandsMom said...

Hey hey!

ShelBailey said...

so i looked up some "book club questions"...but they were all lame. and we all apparently LOVED the book, so what's to discuss??

StandsMom said...

I loved reading everyone's reviews. Such a delightful book.

Deeeeee Light Full

Landee said...

Let's discuss how to become more like Juliet. Is it a character trait or can I take a class?

Jenny ESP said...

Well... maybe WHY we loved the book?

Hot Pants said...

Hey, sorry I didn't get a review in, but I LOVED this book! There. Review done.

Memzy said...

Hollah!!

Jenny ESP said...

Hello all!

ShelBailey said...

I know Jen asked if having two authors helped with making "individual voices" for the letters. But, according to everything I read about the book, MaryAnn Shaffer wrote most of it, and only called her niece when she was diagnosed with cancer. She helped her finish it and get it ready to publish.

Memzy said...

brb, i've gotta go read last come reviews

Jenny ESP said...

K, so I have a question. Why do you think she made Sydney "happy" and why did she wait so long to tell us, although she left many hints?

StandsMom said...

I got such a kick out of Adelaide's letters. She was somethin' else.

Landee said...

Holy Cow! Cristin really did have this book in the running and chose Diplomat's wife? THIS needs to be discussed.

Jenny ESP said...

I have my own theories.

Hot Pants said...

It's the little stories about war time that really let you know how life was.

StandsMom said...

I was entirely caught off guard by the gay thing. And then did one of those, "Oh!!! Okay." things after I'd reconsidered the details.

ShelBailey said...

I think Juliet's personality is a character trait...so I'm not sure how to cultivate that, but I loved her.

Jenny ESP said...

I want to know exactly how much her niece wrote though. Was is just a bit of tweaking then?

Landee said...

They made Sidney gay as a tangerine to crush our hearts and put him out of the running. If she ended up with boring Dawsey at the end when Sidney was still out there hetero we woulda been pizzed.

Hot Pants said...

If i hadn't borrowed this book I would have written "Sydney's happy" on the side of page 83.

Landee said...

I did write that. But solidgold has my book so I can't prove it.

Jenny ESP said...

Charight amy. You had high hopes for him and Juliet like the rest of us, GLAPPS included.

ShelBailey said...

I think making Sidney gay was nice plot twist. I was really wondering why they hadn't gotten together, it was obvious they were crazy about each other.

Just not in "that" way apparently.

Jenny ESP said...

So I think she made him gay for a reason. And sprung it on us for a reason.

StandsMom said...

I just figured their relationship was too brother/sister-like, since she sort of grew up around him and Sophie.

Landee said...

Juliet is so lucky to have a gay BFF. Another reason to envy her.

ShelBailey said...

And I didn't think Dawsey was boring, I think he was sweet.

Hot Pants said...

I never felt like Juliet and Sydney would ever be together. They seemed more brother sisterish.

Memzy said...

And welcome Solid Gold!! I loved your review.

Landee said...

I need to go back and re-read his letters about CHarles Lamb because at the end he was quiet and brooding <--- lamerz.

Jenny ESP said...

But close friends can still fall in love. His gayness was a devastating blow, imo. Dawsey wasn't even on my radar.

Memzy said...

I'll say it again...I've asked for a gay BFF every year for christmas.

StandsMom said...

Yeah...cause he was all in love and nervous and stuff. So sweet.

Landee said...

Where is SolidGold anyway? I hope she knows how to refresh....

Memzy said...

Maybe Sidney coulda hit both ways tho.

Jenny ESP said...

Yes, welcome welocome to Solid gold! I've been admiring your profile pic for ages! Did you bring the pig?

ShelBailey said...

I had several gay friends. Unfortunately, I'm down to one. Three died of AIDS, one disowned me when he heard I was supporting Prop 8, one died of an epileptic siezure while cruising down the Nile with his Dad. So now I have one, non-practicing, LDS bookstore owning gay friend left.

Markie23 said...

Markie here. Couldn't tear myself away from a great Jazz game.

Hot Pants said...

Yeah, I didn't write about Dawsey on any of my margins.

Landee said...

I like my men assertive. What, would Dawsey have just NEVER said anything? What the?

Memzy said...

Shel you are so lucky!!

Jenny ESP said...

Debbie downer shel!!!! We want only happy gay bff stories.

Memzy said...

yeah but YOU made the first move on Gty did you not?

Landee said...

Srsly! Waaaa waaaaa...

::glad I have no gay BFFs now if that's how it ends up::

Markie23 said...

I have a gay friend of the female variety. Cool huh?

StandsMom said...

My fondness for this book tripled when I read Markie's review and discovered that he had to hold back his emotions in public. Perfect.

Memzy said...

Um, the female variety are NOT the same Markie, imho.

Landee said...

No. H-er tried to make me make the first move. I did not oblige. Plus he was still dating that girl with the lazy eye so...

Hot Pants said...

My roomate at BYU was a lesbo.

ShelBailey said...

Markie: as Sam would say "any touchdowns yet?"

Sam and I read an essay by Charles Lamb today, ironically about the wonders of roast pig. We found it very entertaining, though not for the faint of heart. If any of you want the link, I'll pass it on.

Jenny ESP said...

But didn't the fact that someone as clever and assertive and awesome as Juliet make you think that maybe she knew something you didn't when it came to Dawsey? I just had to trust her on that one. But yeah. No where on my radar was he.

Jenny ESP said...

In fact, I pictured Dawsey as being an old gray haired man through most of the book.

Memzy said...

I totally agree Jespy.

solidgold (a.k.a. our family) said...

My son finally got off the computer, so Hi.
I checked page 83 Landee. Hmmmm. I think that Sidney secretly liked Juliet, and was actually on of those Bi's. But he didn't want to ruin their relationship so stuck with the fully gay story.
That's my own theory.

Markie23 said...

Yes, i was on the bus all like... "They must not see me cry".

Hot Pants said...

I totally thought Dawsey was an old man!!

Memzy said...

I pictured Dawsey as a Phylip Seymour Hoffman kinda guy.

StandsMom said...

What did you all think of how naturally she ended up connected with Elizabeth's little girl? I mean, even very shortly after arriving on the island they were staying together.

Jenny ESP said...

You better put up the link for good measure, shel.

ShelBailey said...

Maybe after Mark Reynolds and the trophy guy trying to run her life, she wanted some low-key who just liked her the way she was.

Memzy said...

See? SolidGold totally supports my bi theory.

Jenny ESP said...

Yeah, I thought the kit angle was a little weird. That she would just take over raising E's kid out of no where.

ShelBailey said...

http://essays.quotidiana.org/lamb/dissertation_upon_roast_pig/

Hot Pants said...

Kit imprinted on Juliet.

Landee said...

I pictured Dawsey as Tommy Lee Jones.

StandsMom said...

I don't know. They seemed a little too lax about leaving her with someone they hardly knew. Hey Andrea!!!

Jenny ESP said...

Gay is a spectrum you gize!!!! They probably hooked up at some point. Guarantee they went to prom or something.

StandsMom said...

Spin the bottle at a dumb party, for sure.

Landee said...

I thought Kit was a brat but I forgave her cuz I pictured her uncute. Plus her mom was deaderz and stuff.

Hot Pants said...

Or Morp Jenny. That happened to me once. Went to Morp with a gay.

solidgold (a.k.a. our family) said...

Landee, I don't know how to refresh.

Jenny ESP said...

No way. Kit didn't even like her at first, Amy. Remember? weirdness.

Landee said...

You're supposed to go to MORP with a gay guy. PROM with a hetero. Doyee!

ShelBailey said...

(it's been a couple of months since I read the book but...)

Didn't she NOT want to deal with a kid at first? And I was thinking that at first, Kit was just visiting her...kind of going between Juliet and that other lady whose name escapes me. I think the kid just grew on her. Sometimes they do that...

Markie23 said...

I perceived a connection between J & D after their first couple letters. She did hook him up more Lamb... and the way to a man's heart is through his literary stomach. lamb... stomach... yeah... sorry.

Landee said...

Dangit Andrea! I knew I should have been at your house for your first meeting. YOu're going to miss all my little comments I'm making about you.

Jenny ESP said...

Lollerz @ amy. Almost forgot.

Memzy said...

Can we talk about Isola for a bit? I wanna have one of those too.

Landee said...

Can you imagine having to have a book store owner find a book for you and order it? Thank goodness for Amazon.

solidgold (a.k.a. our family) said...

I feel like I'm in a time warp. Hey Ann!

Jenny ESP said...

I noticed things about J and D after the fact, yes. But I was too distracted by buff and tan Sydney to get the clue right away.

Markie23 said...

Kindle app rocks

Hot Pants said...

I only threw out imprinting to get the whole Twilight reference out of the way. It has to happen at every book club.

ShelBailey said...

We LOVED Isola. She was our favorite character.

She kind of reminded me of my Granma Fuller...she was into phrenology and reflexology...was gonna cure my allergies by rubbing my feet. Unfortunately, I'm EXTREMELY ticklish..she didn't get far...

Jenny ESP said...

And thank goodness they didn't make Kit a cute kid. I hate that! Cuz we all now some kids are uncute. Just a fact.

StandsMom said...

One of my most meaningful ((??)) relationships in HS was with a guy who is now full gay. What's up with that?

solidgold (a.k.a. our family) said...

I wish they would make a movie out of this book bc I'd love to see who would get to play Isola. I loved her!

Hot Pants said...

I tried to search for a look a like picture for Isola.

Memzy said...

I'm picturing Isola played by Meryl Streep.

Landee said...

I love all of these people but I guarantee all their teeth were horrendous. Starting with that old man, Dawsey.

Markie23 said...

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Jenny ESP said...

See, I didn't like Isola right away. She was just a weirdo. But she grew on me in a big way eventually.

Memzy said...

Juliet would be Jennifer Garner

ShelBailey said...

Yeah, one of my gay friends was dating my best friend when we were in HS, we doubled all the time. She was pretty floored when we found out in college that he was gay.

Landee said...

Jennifer Garner???

No.

Jenny ESP said...

Ew, Memzy! No

solidgold (a.k.a. our family) said...

A great Isola look alike would be close to the picture that Ann put on her blog with the one big roaming eye--but a bit crazier.

StandsMom said...

One of my favorite letters was the lady who wrote to Juliet and told her she wasn't attractive? Who was that? It wasn't Isola, was it?

Landee said...

Amy Adams. With a british accent. And dyed hair.

Memzy said...

Elizabeth would be played by Keira Knightley.

Jenny ESP said...

Isola would be cloris leachman

Markie23 said...

I loved Isola and her motorcycle with a sidecar.

Landee said...

hahahahahahahah! Cloris leachman
hahahahahahahah

Memzy said...

Good call Landee. I like Amy Adams better.

Landee said...

Memzy, stop now. Gross.

Jenny ESP said...

yes, memz. So she could die right?

Memzy said...

Hence the ugly kid right?

ShelBailey said...

Shirley MacLaine would be a great Isola if she wasn't so old these days... I loved her Weezer in Steel Magnolias.

Landee said...

I do like Meryl Streep. But with a prosthetic nose & crazy wig.

Markie23 said...

Watch it Memzy!

Landee said...

Elizabeth played by Kate Winslet.

Memzy said...

Well of course. I mean Meryl can UG it up

Jenny ESP said...

I don't like Amy Adams anymore. She always acts the same and it's getting old. I hated her in julie and julia.

Hot Pants said...

Cloris with a wonky eye.

Memzy said...

What about Sidney tho? Who should play him?

Gerard Butler!!!

ShelBailey said...

Cloris leachman's even older than Shirley MacLaine.

Markie23 said...

K.N. would be a great Juliet.

Landee said...

And Kit played by some pudgy little bratty kid. Who knows how to sneer real good.

Landee said...

Jude Law as Sidney.

Jenny ESP said...

nicole kidman as elizabeth.

Landee said...

Me as Sophie (duh).

Memzy said...

I thought of that too. But could she pull of the ugly factor?

Jenny ESP said...

OOOOooo good landee.

Markie23 said...

Am I the only one who pictured Kit as uber cute? Did someone say she wasn't cute in the book... don't remember that part.

Landee said...

Eh on Nicole Kidman. Dunno about that one.

ShelBailey said...

Sam says Nicole Kidman as Elizabeth. But, he's a bigger NK fan than I am...

Memzy said...

That's true. Gerard couldn't pull off gay.....ever.

Landee said...

I think her personality was lacking so I just imagined her as these bratty ugly kids you see running around the wardhouse on any given sunday.

Hot Pants said...

Mary Stuart Masterson as Sydney

StandsMom said...

Ward house? Srsly?

Landee said...

No gay guy would have a droopy lip, Memz. THat's reserved for tough guys like Sly Stallone.

ShelBailey said...

Colin Firth as Dawsey

Jenny ESP said...

Sydney and Juliet:
http://cm1.theinsider.com/media/0/135/99/pushing_daisies.0.0.0x0.384x512.jpeg

Landee said...

Chaz Bono as Sidney.

Memzy said...

Ewan McGregor as Mark Reynolds.

StandsMom said...

I just adore Colin Firth. Love him.

Hot Pants said...

Ah, Michelle, now I love Dawsey.

ShelBailey said...

Clooney as Mark Reynolds

Jenny ESP said...

Memzy--me no likey your ugly crush guy.

Jenny ESP said...

He's always playing a male chauvinist pig-type

Landee said...

FHS YOU GIZE!! It's SIdney. Not Sydney. You're gonna drive me to drugs here. My subtle hints are not working.

ShelBailey said...

We like Ewan better as Mark Reynolds....good call Memz...

Memzy said...

It's ok Jespy. More for me.

Jenny ESP said...

Landee--lollerz @ chaz
Shel--nailed it

Hot Pants said...

I guess I got on an Alias kick.

Landee said...

What were some of the dumb quetions the web told us to ask, Shel?

Markie23 said...

Good call Jenny. I miss that show btw.

ShelBailey said...

Dana Carvey as Adelaide Addison.

Jenny ESP said...

L you're such a passive aggressive grammar police. I love ignoring your non-subtle hints.

Markie23 said...

lol Shel.

ShelBailey said...

Mike Myers would be good too.

Memzy said...

Lollerz shel!!!!!!!

Jenny ESP said...

Yes, lets here the bad qwestions.

Jenny ESP said...

Shel's got this whole cast down!

Memzy said...

It's too bad Flem isn't here cuz she'd lollerz at Landee being the grammar police.

StandsMom said...

Joan Cusack could definitely be someone.

Hot Pants said...

Jespy you're going to drive Landee to Drugs.

Landee said...

Joan as Isola. Perf!!

ShelBailey said...

What were the pros and cons of the book being written as a series of letters?

StandsMom said...

Maybe SYYYYDney didn't really break his leg and he was just on a vacay with his 'partner'

Jenny ESP said...

Where is flem? and all the other missing people for that matter. I know lots of people read this one.

Landee said...

Ok. Next lame question...

ShelBailey said...

I think the main reason i didn't like the questions, is that everyone already addressed most of them in their reviews.

Landee said...

I'll text Flem. brb

ShelBailey said...

Joan Cusack would be a great Isola...she's kind of quirky.

Hot Pants said...

Pros- You got to feel like you were snooping into someones life.
Con's- It took longer to tell you the story. Kinda like on Dateline when they take an hour to tell a 15 minute story.

Hot Pants said...

I like Dateline BTW

Jenny ESP said...

Yes, it clicked later on, Stands. When Sydnei was being "nursed" back to health by "Piers". Winks!!

Memzy said...

I bet Peeerce was hawt.

Landee said...

It's like you're mouths are moving but I can't hear what you're saying.

ShelBailey said...

Did you want Juliet to end up with Sidney, Mark Reynolds or Dawsey? Did you suspect why a romantic relationship with Sidney was not possible?

Landee said...

Text back from Flem: Craaaaap.

Jenny ESP said...

Wait, I thought the letter thing sped the story WAY WAY WAY up times ten.

StandsMom said...

Matt Damon could be Reynolds.

StandsMom said...

No! I don't mean Matt Damon. Hang on....

Memzy said...

How could those letters have possibly gotten to and from Marc and Juliette so fast?

Hot Pants said...

I was waiting for them to introduce a character for her, not knowing they already had...

Jenny ESP said...

We would have had to hear Juliet's whole thought process and her actions and stuff, instead of just getting a piece of it here and there.

StandsMom said...

Matt Dillon. Yeeesh! Sorry.

Landee said...

Then Flem said: Driving. Tell them I said 5 stars and thanks a gazillions.

Hot Pants said...

No Jespy, cuz you had to read all their small talk.

Hot Pants said...

Like "dear..." and "Sincerely..."

ShelBailey said...

I liked the letters because they gave you more of an insight in how different characters thought and what motivated them. I thought she (or they) did an ingenious job of making each character's letter "voice" so different.

Jenny ESP said...

Oh yeah, back to the gay sydney thing... I think he ended up gay so we would think about the people who were killed by the Nazis for being gay. Cuz we think about the Jews a lot, but the gay folk are sometimes forgotten cuz their numbers weren't as big.

ShelBailey said...

I think the stuff between Mark and Juliet was probably done with couriers...they did that alot then. Not the regular mail... Some kid on a bike.

Hot Pants said...

I liked the letters. I was just trying to answer a question. I like having it be in so many different first persons.

Jenny ESP said...

There is way more small talk in daily life than what is written in letters. In fact I didn't see any small talk. Everything was written for a reason, imp.

Landee said...

I loved the letters. I'm currently writing a novel entirely through email. It's exhilarating.

ShelBailey said...

Next lame question...although this one isn't so lame...

If you had lived on Guernsey just before the occupation, do you think you would have sent your children to England without you?

Landee said...

Eeeeeee...Shel....wow.....

Hot Pants said...

I would have left WITH them. Dorky Duh.

Markie23 said...

I hope some really crappy books get picked before it comes around to my turn again. I don't think I can handle this kind of pressure.

Jenny ESP said...

So, I think they sprung the gay thing on us so we wouldn't form any prejudices about him ahead of time. The reason I though all this was bc right when I found out he was gay, first I mourned, and then I was concerned for his fragile existence in those turbulent times. He could have been killed.

Memzy said...

I stopped at one point in the book and had that discush with Sherod. I don't know what I would do with my kids! Keep them is my first instinct but....?

Markie23 said...

I wouldn't have needed an excuse to send the kids away.

Hot Pants said...

I'm glad they made him gay during the book and not as an after thought at a book signing.

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