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Sunday, June 28, 2009

These is the official discussion

First, I have to say "These is Markie's Words" made me laugh so hard I cried. Which I needed, because I had just finished this book and was crying so hard, I needed a good laugh. I now have a migraine, but am going to muscle through it for book club. There's just been too much death this week.
I can't believe how much I loved this book! I HATED the ending, but I LOVED this book. She had already been through so much sadness, I just thought, the least the author could do was let us all end on a high. So I have decided in my head to change the ending around a bit. See, after Sarah was dissed by the banker, and the bank owner found out his employee was rude to her and lost a $500 client, he was fired. Jack felt bad for the guy and helped him get a job as a firefighter. The court house caught on fire, and that banker guy thought he heard a baby crying and went to check it out. He got blown to bits. Jack felt bad and decided to move the family back to the ranch. April agreed, and came along. Upon arriving at the ranch, Sarah found out she was pregnant. The End.

This book made me laugh, and it made me cry. I hate to cry. My emotions were so up and down, I had to call in for some Prosac.
I was so sad when Clover died I had a hard time sleeping, I just kept thinking about it. Then today, I heard Howie screaming and crying in my bathroom. He kept saying his hand hurt so bad. I immediately thought of poor little Clover and his snake bite. It turned out, Howie had been messing around with Dwight's razor and cut his thumb up. I wished I had cheeped out and not bought the 5 blade. It gave me the willies.
I was so depressed when she married Jimmy. I kept wishing he would die. My wish came true. I was mad at his dying words. But, then I was glad because now Sarah wouldn't have feel sad over his loss.
Some parts that made me laugh:
Her church confession about not dying all her clothes black.
Her talking about the chickens getting fat (Landee mentioned it in more detail)
Markie's injun eating his ice cream.
Ernest's wife.....in my version of the story though, Sarah never held her tongue.

I loved Jack...deeply...from the time he held her in her skivvies while she confessed all her fears to him. He was always there to save her, even though she was more than capable of saving herself. I loved the letter she found in the book he never sent her. Other than the constantly running off to kill injun's, he was the perfect leading man. There are two more books in this saga, but I don't know if I can go on with out Jack. I'm pretty sure the author stuck with her ending instead of using mine.

So, let's get this discussion going. I say start with the sad and end with the happy. And please don't forget about the new ending. I don't want to hear any talk of Jack dying, or it's all over.

197 comments:

Jenny ESP said...

Just posted my review, off to read some of the others, brb...

Hot Pants said...

Mustaches and chest hair....it's all a woman needs.

Hot Pants said...

I got my lap top all handy. Where is everyone? (Yeah, that's right, still got the lap top)

Hot Pants said...

Mmmm, I didn't know you all felt that way.

Hot Pants said...

This is getting deep.

Hot Pants said...

Oh yeah? I agree with all you have been saying.

Memzy said...

Hollah!!!!

Wait,...there are more books?

Hot Pants said...

I guess I'll go play a little spider solitaire and check back...

Memzy said...

What are they called? I must read them now.

Hot Pants said...

Memzy!!!

Landee said...

I have to read the Johnny Come Lately's reviews...brb.

Memzy said...

what am I? chopped liver?

Markie23 said...

Markie is checking in.

Hot Pants said...

I think one was something like Sarahs QUilt and the other about a garden maybe

Memzy said...

Jack Elliot. ::sigh::

Markie23 said...

I'd like to hear more about the other books. Anybody read them?

Memzy said...

April bugged. She was sooooo Jimmy's daughter

Jenny ESP said...

Confession: after Jack died, I could not stop crying. I felt like a widow. So I went for a two hour drive, bawled my eyes out, planned his whole funeral, what I was going to say and everything. Then I went home and tried to move on with my life. The next day, we saw UP and I thought of Jack and cried through most of the movie. He was hard to get over. I'll never be over him fully. Oh, and I do love mustaches.

Hot Pants said...

Markie, I am calling a publisher for your words.

Markie23 said...

thank you, thank you very much.

Memzy said...

Can we hear the eulogy Jespy?

Hot Pants said...

Jenny, read my ending. It's way better.

Landee said...

I can't wait to see Tony's new mustache.... yeah. That's what I thought.

Memzy said...

Tony would rawk a stache.

Hot Pants said...

I had to hide and cry so Dwight wouldn't laugh at me. He's so much like Jack....

Landee said...

Markie... loved your words.

I wanted to do that after I read yours but didn't want to be a Copy Cat. It would have been several entries during 1993-1995 when I lived with Flem and Memz.... LOTS of entries.

Memzy said...

I tried reading a few passages to Shed and had to stop onnacuzza the emotion. So embarrassing.

Hot Pants said...

I HATED the ending. Did she have to kill off everyone?!?!?

Memzy said...

I vote for Landee's entries.

Landee said...

I didn't cry. But I hugged the book and sighed really loud.

I knew he was gonna die. Jespy ruined it for me.

Jenny ESP said...

Hated April, the lil B. The next book is called Sarah's Quilt. I didn't think I'd be able to read it, because I didn't want to read about her life after Jack, but then enough time had passed that I decided to download it to my Kindle. It's good so far (I'm about 20% in), lots of exciting stuff going on. I'm just pretending like Jack is at work.

Landee said...

I'm the devil in her review, btw. She is gonna GET IT tonight.

Hot Pants said...

I think she finds new loves in the sequels. Anyone could replace Jimmy, no one could replace Jack.

Mary said...

I had a problem with his loving her so very much, but himself more because he wouldn't give up the military to be with his family. My hero is much better because he left the Army when he got back from Vietnam!

Mary said...

Anyone else have a problem with Jack and his obsession with being in the calvary?

Hot Pants said...

Mine is even better, cuz he never even went to Nam.

Memzy said...

Landee,....wha?

Landee said...

Btw, Jack is like Eugenides... much more than meets the eye. How much did you love that kid saluting him at the train depot? And seeing how richy rich his pappy was?

Jenny ESP said...

I did not ruin it for you Landee! whatever. And I do love mustaches on some men. I'll have you know that my daddy has had one my whole life. Looks strange without it.

I laughed like crazy at Markie's review. I wanted to write a longer one but didn't manage my time well.

Memzy said...

It bugged how much Jack needed to be all "hero" man and stuff. But it was part of who he was. In his blood, his very being. And that's why Sarah was perf for him.

Landee said...

I had a big problem with Jack needing the glory tho, Mary. I totally agree with you. He shoulda put his famdam first.

Hot Pants said...

I didn't like JAck leaving. And I didn't like him dying. I think the author has clinical depression and just couldn't stand anyone else being happy. Misery loves company...

Memzy said...

Look what happened when he DID stay home? Burnt to a crisp.

Jenny ESP said...

The whole reason I went for the two hour drive was because I didn't want to cry in front of tony like a werido.

Landee said...

Yes JESPY... you did.

Texts like "So depressed"

"Can't get over this"

^^^ those give stuff away.

Cristin said...

Sorry I'm late,I was just finishing up dyeing my clothes black.

Memzy said...

And how sweet was he talking to his kids in the end?

Hot Pants said...

Memzy, it was the banker that got fired that died!!! DIdn't you read my review?!?!?

Memzy said...

Crisin!! lollerz

Landee said...

It's ok tho. I needed the mental prep. I didn't want to bawl like a fool anyway.

Signed,

The Devil

Jenny ESP said...

I have mixed feelings about him leaving a lot. I missed him when he was gone, but I would have felt sad if he had to give up what he loved.

Landee said...

Also, her baby died onnacuzza that dood wouldn't listen to no woman. I wouldn't mind if he died in that fire either, HP. See if you can work that in.

Memzy said...

PS. Your title of this post keeels me Amy.

Memzy said...

And how much it changed him that his baby died. OUCH.

Jenny ESP said...

Listen devil, I did not send you those texts! You even asked me flat out if he dies and I said no. I lied.

Memzy said...

pss. The bible has NEVER sounded so sexy.

Landee said...

I refuse to read the other books you gize. I won't do it.

It'll be like Breaking Dawn all over again.

Edward.

Hot Pants said...

Yes, definitely the quack chauvinist doctor burned on the fire!

Memzy said...

Rabbits.

Jenny ESP said...

Does anyone else hate the title of the book? I feel stupid when I recommend it to people.

Hot Pants said...

I loved the bible verses and plan on using in my next RS lesson.

Cristin said...

Markie, I'm still laughing at your review...heeeeeeeelarious!!!!

Memzy said...

I always laugh when I say it and as soon as I explain it makes sense.............

not really tho.

Jenny ESP said...

That sexy bible quoting scene was my favorite! Bookmarked it.

Cristin said...

There's more books??? How can she go on without Jack??? I can't go on without Jack!!!

Mary said...

I loved Markie's review too. This book club is hard to keep up with because every time I refresh to catch the comments they've left me FAR behind. But I'm glad to hear that some of you had a problem with Jack's need to leave his family. Some people just want it all no matter how hard it is on those around them. Sarah handled it, but it was sad for her. Now having lived a life of a hubby gone all the time, I will say that there are a lot of sweet "hellos" to be had.

Memzy said...

How about:

"My diary...take it like it is or go out and feed the chickens."

Hot Pants said...

I was worrying the whole book that Savannah was going to get killed off... I hate NAncy, she's the devil.

Memzy said...

Did Mary just refer to "bible talk"?

Cristin said...

I have to admit, I'm kind of glad he didn't leave the army, it was almost mysterious how he didn't want to leave like he had some life altering moment in his life that draws him too it. But on the other hand, how could he keep leaving her???

Jenny ESP said...

I also loved when she found that half-written letter in the book. I read it a brazilian times. I actually liked that he kept the book from her, as if he couldn't bear to give it up. That was sexy.

Hot Pants said...

Mary's not allowed to talk "Bible" talk. There are her children present.

Cristin said...

I bet he didn't leave the army because he knows that men in uniform are hot!

Memzy said...

He even said he couldn't bear to give it up cuz he'd given all the rest of his heart to her.

Markie23 said...

As a special treat for my Book Club buddies I posted a picture on my blog of the one and only time that I ever had a mustache. I actually grew a scraggly beard for the first time in my life about 5 years ago. Then when I shaved it off I left the mustache for about two days before it went too.
I titled the post "look quick", because after you get your peek it will be deleted (before you get too used to it, and start calling me Capt'n Jack).

Landee said...

Oh blah... Jack died you gize.

Cristin said...

Jack was all about the sexy! It was sexy that he fell in love with her while she was shooting a shot gun. That's hot!

Memzy said...

Capt Markie!!!

Jenny ESP said...

OMG, Markie, brb you gize...

Memzy said...

Does that "look quick" mean I can't save that pic to my compy for future use?

Didn't think so.

Mary said...

I kept expecting him to give the book back, but when she found it and the letter it all made sense and was very sweet. And Jack didn't get burned up because he stayed home, he got burned up because he had this thing about jumping into dangerous situations. It was just a fluke that the dangerous situation came once he had a regular job. If it hadn't happened there it would have been some Indian that set him on fire.

Landee said...

Markie!!! See? THAT IS WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT!! You look like a porn star. Only Tom Selleck can pull one off.

Jenny ESP said...

Captn Markie indeed! Did Cherie love it?

Memzy said...

ps. I have Annie's three oldest boys here tonight along with my three. And they are all having a dart gun war around me as I type. So I may have to come and go a little bit. You know........

Cristin said...

Captain Markie!!!

Hot Pants said...

Dwight grew a mustache once. He totally looked like a "predator". I kept waiting for Dateline to show up. (Copying and pasting Markie's picture fast)

Jenny ESP said...

Landee did you just ADMIT that someone can pull-off a mustache (but not Markie? That's what I thought.

Cristin said...

Amy, once your done copying and pasting the picture, send it to me please

Landee said...

::ahem:: and Gus, of course.

Landee said...

He knows it too! Why do you think he's gonna delete that post asap? Exactly.

Markie23 said...

Landee - would that be your favorite porn star, or one of your lesser favorites?

Memzy - Doh!!

jespy - Nope, it wasn't a big hit with either of us.

Hot Pants said...

I do what I can to avoid have a mustache too. Howie calls it a muss-pash.

Landee said...

My fave... Ron Jeremy.

Jenny ESP said...

I wish Jack would have died in some big romantic way, if he had to die at all. Saving a non-existent child was like rubbing salt in the wound.

Markie23 said...

I wish I had thought to grow a mustache before it was all "salt and pepper".

Jenny ESP said...

Markie--Just For Men.

Mary said...

This is getting bogged down with mustache talk. Gus came home from Vietnam with a mustache and I really had to get use to it. He has had it ever since, except for a few months ago when he shaved it off and I didn't even notice!!!!! It's back now.

Landee said...

I hated her shooting that rattle snake off of April (even tho April was a brat the second she was borned). I can't even swat a fly off my kids' heads.

Cristin said...

Well, I much prefer Hot Pants ending and I'm printing it out right now and I'm going to paste it in place of the original slit your wrists depressing ending, cause seriously, I don't really look that good in black.

Hot Pants said...

Yeah, Jack's this smart tracker guy, and he mistakes hissing of hot paint for a baby? I hate Nancy.

Markie23 said...

What I really need is Rogaine

Landee said...

Mary-- there is no "bogged down" here! This is the SRBC!

Jenny ESP said...

I loved how Jack was this big hero, but was so humble about it. Like the time he had Sarah meet him in town, and she had no clue he was getting a metal of valor from the army. Sigh.

Hot Pants said...

Jimmy screwed things up big for Sarah. The best thing he did for her was to die.

Markie23 said...

There were a couple real nice spots in the book where it would have been a nice happy ending, and I almost hated to read on knowing there there would be more tragedy ahead.

Cristin said...

I think some of the funniest stuff was when Sarah was having to deal with her pain in the rear sis in law...soooooo funny!!!!

Mary said...

Landee-- SRCB? I'm not that good at blog talk yet...help me out here.

Cristin said...

I especially liked how she mentioned how she should write her sis in law but made sure to mention the rattle snakes and other creepy things to keep her from wanting to come back to the ranch. lollerz

Hot Pants said...

I thing I'll change out April dying of scarlet fever instead of Suzanne. This book is getting better and better.

Jenny ESP said...

I know. I wondered why she didn't just end the book sooner. Like right before he died. Sarah and Jack were big debbie downers after her little girl died too. Understandably. I was depressed when he quit the army.

Landee said...

Smart Remarks Book Club

Can you believe how scandalous Nancy was with her eyebrows drawn on? For shame!!!

Markie23 said...

I wish I were a manly man like Jack. I'm afraid I would have been tharn in any age prior to 1960.

Mary said...

I guess we all knew Jack was going to die. She gave us all those hints with her bad dreams. If we wanted a happy ending we should have quit reading at the first happy incident after that first dream.

Hot Pants said...

You mean Felicity?

Jenny ESP said...

I couldn't live before tampons were invented. Or iPhones. Could you?

Hot Pants said...

What does "tharn" mean?

Cristin said...

Hot pants, yep, I mean FELICITY

Markie23 said...

I can live without both. Especially them new fangled iPhones.

Hot Pants said...

Was there really early birth control? I need to google real quick.

Landee said...

Right, Felicity. Wait... was that the SIL? I read it so long ago and Standsmom refuses to give my book back. Jaykay, but she's not done yet.

Jenny ESP said...

Tharn is a term from Watership Down.

Landee said...

There was birth control Amy... you just ate seabane at dinner.

Cristin said...

I couldn't live without a microwave... and probably fountain drinks for sure.

Landee said...

Amy... are you serious?

You're a member of this club in name only.

Jenny ESP said...

I loved the SIL too. I started book two and know what happens to her. Want to know?

Markie23 said...

It's a great word, and now part of my daily vocabulary. It's rabbit language for "checking out". Sort of like a deer in the headlights.

Cristin said...

Jenny, nooooooooooooooooooooooo! Don't tell me, now that i know there is more I'm gonna go get them.

Landee said...

I'm tharn at the thought that Amy doesn't know that.

That's more scandalous than the eyebrows or the Lady's Preventative.

Jenny ESP said...

Landee, I literally spewed Diet Coke all over my keyboard with that seabane comment.

Hot Pants said...

Doi.. Tharn=frozen in terror.
Can I come back in please?

Landee said...

I guess. But you best just text Jenny those kinds of questions in the future, ya hear?

Jenny ESP said...

Amy, tharn is like stupefied. Think of the look on Blindy's face when he dances. (Blindy from American Idol)

Mary said...

When Maddie was 2 or 3 we took her to a movie and afterwards we heard sirens down the street. Maddie yelled, "Cops! Let's check it out!" When she could have just said, "Tharn!" Is that right Mark?

Hot Pants said...

I've only taken seabane 4 times in my life. Bailey, Calvin, Ella, Howie.

Markie23 said...

Jespy - if I had a diet coke it would be all over my keyboard.

Landee said...

I knew Dwight was gay.

Hot Pants said...

Landee, we totally went to RC Willey, and he isn't.

Mary said...

Oops, must have gotten the definition wrong according to Amy's def. it must mean afraid.

Landee said...

Was he tharn in RC Willey? OR did he enjoy himself?

Markie23 said...

No, that's not really it Mary. If she heard the sirens and slunk down in her seat, eyes open wide, and not moving a muscle, then she would have gone Tharn.

Or just think Blindy.

Jenny ESP said...

No Mary. That's not quite it. Tharn is like stunned or frozen. Like when you shine a spot light on a rabbit and they freeze. It's because they have gone tharn. So use it if you have a brain freeze, or if you are scared stiff.

Hot Pants said...

So, new favorite parts of book:
When April died and Suzanne lived.
When quack DR. died and Jack lived and knocked up his wife again. Am I missing anything else?

Cristin said...

nope, I think that's it Hot Pants

Landee said...

What about when Jimmy gets the crap kicked out of him one night and has to have all his extremities amputated? Then dies of extreme lameness?

Hot Pants said...

What a nice happy book

Markie23 said...

yes hot pants... when the injuns came and ate all the broccoli in the house.

Cristin said...

Oh, yeah, I forgot about that part. Thanks for reminding me Landee!!!

Jenny ESP said...

Was anyone else a lil bummed when Sarah kept getting prego, even though she wanted more babies? They didn't have enough alone time, pre-kids, ya know.

Markie23 said...

OMG, I think the magic is coming back you gize. My sides hurt.

Hot Pants said...

I think Jimmy should have been the one to poop his pants all over the place when she found him. Then she could have gagged and acted way grossed out and made him feel worse.

Cristin said...

Well, Jenny, I think back then they liked kids and stuff. I didn't get it...

Landee said...

No! I wanted her to have a hunnerd kids!

Her at the the table with just the two boys at the end was depressing.

Jenny ESP said...

Amy, I can't believe you brought that up! It's unmentionable. I didn't like that part, no I did not.

Landee said...

I forgot about the stank that was Jack. That may have contributed to me not falling deeply for him. Plus mustache.

Mary said...

Okay, I got it. Thanks for the new word. Not as good as gize, but might come in handy from time to time.

Hot Pants said...

More kids, especially after poor April died of the fever.

Markie23 said...

Listen to Jespy, talking like Mary Murphy, yes she is.

StandsMom said...

Finally here. Sorry. Landee - I did not refuse to give you the book back. You didn't ask anyway. AND I would happily give it back to you if you wanted it, but I'm hoping you won't need it so's I can reads it. Everyone's reviews were so entertaining.

Landee said...

Mary Murphy gets more and more annoying every year, yes she does!

Jenny ESP said...

She just didn't have enough breaks between them. She was constantly prego. But yes, it was sad at the end when there were but two. Good riddens to April tho.

Hot Pants said...

You know when Mary Ingals got the fever, she just went blind. Why couldn't that happen now.

Cristin said...

yay StandsMom

Landee said...

Is April in the next book? Does she end up working at a whore house?

StandsMom said...

My hubby has a goatee. Mustache is attached. I always thought I would hate it. It only bugs me when he hasn't trimmed it in a few days. Otherwise - it's kind of nice.

Mary said...

Boy, I keep getting way behind making my comments completely lame. I guess I'll sign off with this last statement. Loved the book, want to read more about Sarah.

Jenny ESP said...

Ah, Standsmom. Already with July's book I hope, yes I do.

Landee said...

STANDS!!! I was jaykaying. Cuz you weren't here to defend yourself. I like to pick on the absentees.

Where the ayche is Flem? Like she's busy or something...

Markie23 said...

this is a comment for another post (or a podast LANDEE!), but I LOVE Mary Murphy... YES I DO!!! YYYEEEAAAAA!!!!

Jenny ESP said...

Did flem read it?

Hot Pants said...

Mom, you're giving up too easily. Just like Ulysses.

Landee said...

I don't even know if Flem read it.

Markie.. first the mustache and now your a MMLovah? I can't even look at you right now.

Jenny ESP said...

Love Mary Murphy too, yes I do.

Bye, Mary Morgan. Thanks for your contribution.

Cristin said...

Bye Mary!

Landee said...

MM is the Pauler Abdul tho so it makes sense.

Markie23 said...

yes it does. A "Why I Love Mary Murphy" post is forthcoming.

StandsMom said...

I know you were kidding -- of course. Thanks for throwing me under the bus today in SS, so that you wouldn't have to give the closing prayer. :::huge grin::: I didn't mind. I knew I was going to get called on anyway. So - I love that there were words in reviews like dadburn, netherparts, etc. It's awesome!

Landee said...

Kris Allen's twitter today:

KrisAllen4Real:Workin on a killa song right now. It's the hot diggity

I hate the real Kris.

Cristin said...

Well, I gotta go too. I have a date with my walking shoes and neighbor. So laaaaaaame.

Landee said...

Bye Cristin! Say hi to "Oh my Gosh It Burns!" for me.

Jenny ESP said...

Kris is Gityd would never say that, unless he was JKing.

Markie23 said...

You go Cristin!!! Love you!!

Hot Pants said...

What? Mom and Cristin?!? Come on gize!

Landee said...

Danny Gokey is worser. As if we didn't already know that.

Jenny ESP said...

Bye Cristin! Have fun burning calories.

Hot Pants said...

What did you all think about that whole incident with Ulyses? I liked the part where Sarah killed the men, then the injun tried to give her their scalps.

Jenny ESP said...

Gokey still working at Lens Crafters?

Landee said...

dannygokey: Wow I just woke up! (Much needed sleep). I need 2 workout, eat, shower all within the next 60 minutes so I can make it 2 rehearsal on time!

Anyone who uses numbers rather than words = lamerz. Except you EmilyKW8, of course.

Landee said...

Markie, I await your Mary Murphy Botox post!

Jenny ESP said...

I loved the part when she killed the men, and then the girls' dad made them shun her, but after a while they couldn't do it anymore and they told off their dad. Loved it. So glad she wasn't raped. There were a few close calls.

Landee said...

Everyone gone?

K.

I guess I'll get the kids in bed then.

It's been dagnabbit all to heck fun!

Hot Pants said...

So is this over then?

Hot Pants said...

I'm still in mourning. Don't leave me!

Markie23 said...

Sara is one tough woman. I loved it when she shot those gize.

Jenny ESP said...

Nice discussion. Excited to see what book is next. That's my favorite part--the Monday after discussion, waking up to find out what the next book is gonna be.

Markie23 said...

Yessum, I recon I should be headin' off for some shut eye myself. Love you SRBC! Can't wait for the next pick!!

Hot Pants said...

I'm going to go read it again, and just skipped over a few of the deaths. Just a few.

Memzy said...

Did someone say Danny Gokey?